Sadly two deaths from carbon monoxide on fishing boat. Read more http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/local/update-harbour-deaths-on-fishing-boat-1-6374292
If only this was true!
Amazing that an eleven year old was able to understand immediately what my motivation has always been!
- 19:25, 22 June 2015
- By Angela Cooke
Nine years on, Sue Westwood is still suffering after-effects including poor memory, fibromyalgia and migraines…
A report from ITV News revealed that the Travel Industry are apparently calling for Universal Standards on Health & Safety in Holiday Accommodation.
Whilst we would welcome any initiative to provide comprehensive Consumer Protection, an examination of their comments reveal some unanswered questions.
It appears that the Industry is calling for a uniform standard in holiday accommodation, thereby placing the onus upon the accommodation owner to protect their guests.
The apparent comments of the Industry do not appear to suggest that their own health & safety checks require examination or regulation.
We note that on the question of standards, the Travel Industry has spent years and no doubt a considerable amount of money on legal fees, to defeat UK Consumer Claims of UK Standards and achieved judicial support for local standards applying.
In the interview with Joel Hills, we detected a less than clear explanation of what the Travel Industry are seeking and have left the impression that they are either seeking a form of ‘local standards plus’ or a set of non-regulatory standards.
As we see it, this lack of clarity is important, particularly in light of the recent inquest in the death of Christianne & Robert Shepherd from Carbon Monoxide poisoning in Corfu in 2006.
“We think that the best way to force people as you put to eh to ensure that you’ve got these safety measures in place is actually to have local laws locally implemented”
ABTA is clearly the body that represents the bulk of the UK Travel Industry, they say that:
‘ABTA is the UK’s largest travel association, representing travel agents and tour operators that sell £32 billion of holidays and other travel arrangements each year’.
Further into the report, the viewer is advised that:
“The Travel Industry insists that safety is of paramount importance and it wants change too, for years they’ve pressed for standardised health & safety rules across all 28 European Union countries”
Given these apparent comments from the Travel Industry, we pose several questions:
- Is the ABTA position still based on different local standards rather than a pan-European Law?
- If it is not based on local standards, will ABTA and their members abandon their insistence that English law only requires compliance with ‘local standards’; will it change its position to state that it will comply with UK Standards, until such time as a universal standard or law is implemented?
- When ABTA and the Travel Industry claim that they have pressed for standardised health & safety:
- Are they speaking about creating a CEN based standard, or
- Creating a CEN based standard capable of being incorporated into EU Law, or
- The creation of a full-blown EU Regulation which is implemented directly into each Member State’s Law automatically?
- If it is none of the above options, what do they propose to create increased Consumer Protection on Health & Safety?
- Is it the intention of ABTA or the Travel Industry to also propose and submit to positive obligations on them to:
- Ensure that initial assessments of hotel & cruise properties are correctly carried out, and
- That subsequent periodic assessments and ongoing monthly reports maintain the high standards required in any Standard or Regulation?
- Will ABTA & The Travel Industry also propose that any such Standard or Regulation incorporates a publicly available register detailing those resorts, hotels or cruise ships subject to ‘black-listing’ because of their failure to adhere to that Standard or Regulation?
- Will ABTA & The Travel Industry also recommend that Travel Companies also failing to adhere to any such Standard or Regulation be added to that ‘black-list’?
- Noting that their comments appear to only relate to the EU area, what ‘standards’ or ‘laws’ do they propose to protect Consumers for the Travel Product outside the EU area?
- If ABTA & The Travel Industry are serious about creating a pan-European Standard or Regulation:
- What positive steps will they take to create a wide Stakeholder panel to lobby for either legislative or standards change?
- Is the Travel Industry willing to enter into continuing dialogue with organisations that seek to help holiday victims, such as the Corfu parents, in order to learn from such experiences and work in partnership to improve their service in the future?
- Where appropriate, will the Travel Industry now work with Charities to aid the goal of improved Consumer Safety by providing unconditional funding for their work?
- In light of recent events concerning Carbon Monoxide Safety, will the Travel Industry now provide full details of the third parties they use and in particular reveal important detail about their practices and qualifications, particularly whether they are using the UK ‘Gas Safe Registered’ installer qualification or its equivalent in a foreign destination?
Frank Brehany, the Consumer Director for HolidayTravelWatch states:
“This news report revealed that even now, after everything that has happened, the Travel Industry do not appear to be clear about what type of Regulation they are seeking or what is required. Our questions will hopefully deal with that deficit, because after all, like HolidayTravelWatch, I am certain that the Travel Industry will want the best form of ‘legislation’ to protect Consumers and to create a level playing field for the Industry; we stand ready to play our part and to bring the Consumer experience to the table in Brussels & Westminster!”
“I fully support the comments of my campaigning colleague, Stephanie Trotter”.
Stephanie Trotter, The President of CO-Gas Safety states:
“I give a cautious welcome, subject to the answers to our questions, to the apparent desire for improved standards. Nearly every victim I have talked to during the 20 years I have run this charity, wants to make sure that lessons are learned from their tragedy. Victims want steps to be taken to make sure injuries or death doesn’t happen to others in the future. I pay tribute to Sharon and Neil [the Corfu Carbon Monoxide parent’s] who epitomise this and we admire their courage, determination and commitment. However, it shouldn’t be victims who have to work so hard even to raise safety issues”.
“It is easy for industry to state that ‘safety is paramount’ but does it put this into practice? Huge corporations tend to have policies, levels of management and knee jerk reactions that can make it virtually impossible for victim based organisations to have a meaningful dialogue with those with the power to change things, but also who has responsibility for the day to day safety issues. There is an attitude that ‘it’ll never happen to us’. Industry knows of the barriers victims have to get through. But it did happen to Thomas Cook. CO-Gas Safety issues an invitation for those at the top of the UK travel & fuel industry to talk to us and listen properly to the concerns of victims. We want action to protect people. In the UK we have counted 677 deaths and over 4,700 near misses/injuries from unintentional carbon monoxide (CO) in 19 years, yet there are not even any prime time TV warnings about CO. Nor do we have any secure funding for our victim support and data collection, collation and publication, yet it is from the victims and the data that we have come up with safety improvements to save lives, preserve health as well as save huge costs for the NHS.”
See the link below about the news item detailing the payments made to charities suggested by the Corfu family
Thomas Cook will be making substantial donations to 6 charities and CO-Gas Safety was mentioned first. See http://news.sky.com/story/1488464/thomas-cook-goodwill-payout-to-corfu-family
We are so grateful to the Corfu parents for this.
Chrsti and Bobby Shepherd will always be remembered by CO-Gas Safety.
We are also grateful to our founders, Molly Maher, the late David Jenkins from RoSPA and Nigel Griffiths an MP in 1995.
We are extremely grateful to all those who have kept us going in so many ways over the years. We continue to work to raise awareness of this hidden danger, provide help for victims and work for sensible safety measures to prevent deaths and injuries from CO and other gas dangers including all other products of combustion.
CO-Gas Safety thanks the Corfu parents and Thomas Cook for the promise of a very generous donation to the charity to enable it to continue its valuable work of trying to prevent deaths and injuries from unintentional carbon monoxide poisoning. The charity also raises awareness of the dangers, provides victim support and collects, collates and publishes data.
In 19 years we have counted 677 deaths and over 4,700 near misses or injuries from unintentional carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning in the UK. We have also counted 32 deaths of UK citizens abroad of CO. We know we only receive the tip of an iceberg. Even in cases of unexplained death, bodies are not automatically tested for CO.
We pay tribute to the courage and determination of the Corfu parents and in this long fight.
Many people are still unaware of the dangers and how to prevent CO poisoning. We have lobbied for prime time TV warnings since 1995. Proof is always a real issue because so often landlords will remove the appliance or change it. We can help victims prove their case if they preserve the evidence & contact us soon enough.
In the Corfu case we recommended Harry Rogers, gas expert court witness who undertook an investigation for the parents. In our opinion, without Harry’s investigation, the facts would never have emerged. We are also hugely grateful to Leslie Thomas QC who supported the family so brilliantly in every way.
Our advice is always to get carbon based fuelled* appliances properly installed and maintained, keep chimneys and flues clear, ensure adequate ventilation and install a CO alarm to EN 50291.* (Gas, coal, wood, petrol, diesel etc.)
A battery operated CO alarm to EN 50291 can be taken on holiday even in hand luggage. Why don’t airport shops sell them?
We ask why the energy companies are not funding CO-Gas Safety to help continue this vital work?
Our thanks again to the Corfu parents and Thomas Cook.
Christi and Bobby will always be remembered by CO-Gas Safety.
The verdict of ‘unlawful killing’ and a finding that Thomas Cook breached their Duty of Care following an inquest into the deaths of Christianne & Robert Shepherd, presents the Travel Industry with a wake-up call on hotel safety!
The Jury revealed a number of short-comings in the hotel property and in particular the boiler and its maintenance, but the most important concerns raised by the Jury related to how the hotel property was assessed.
It is on the question of assessment of hotel accommodation that concerns HolidayTravelWatch and Co-Gas Safety and whilst they campaign on a wide range of safety issues, the Corfu case reveals the deficit in assessment on Carbon Monoxide.
Both Organisations consider that the time has come for Tour Operators & Hoteliers to embrace a better risk assessment model through:
- The Precautionary Principle;
- Adopting the EU ‘4 Components on Risk Management’
- Creating a broader based risk assessment conclusion model:
- Evidence based conclusions;
- Probability based conclusions, and
- Comparative based conclusions.
The Organisations support the current EU Green Paper proposals on Safety in Holiday Accommodation and now call for an urgent introduction of Regulation which incorporates the ‘Precautionary Principle’ issues detailed above.
Frank Brehany, the Consumer Director for HolidayTravelWatch states:
“In memory of Christianne & Robert Shepherd I say that there is no longer any valid argument to delay and import a greater protection for holidaymakers in their holiday accommodation. We must not let this important verdict pass by without firm and resolute action; light-touch regulation simply does not work!”
“I also support the sage words and comments of my fellow campaigner, Stephanie Trotter”.
Stephanie Trotter, The President of CO-Gas Safety states:
“I want to pay tribute to the courage and determination of Sharon, Paul, Neil and Ruth for fighting hard for this inquest to find out what went wrong so that others don’t have to suffer a similar terrible tragedy”
“Money seems to be treated as much more important than life and death. This must change now”
She further adds,
“I’d like to thank the Coroner and jury for the care they have taken. It is only from learning from such deaths that we can work to prevent future deaths. CO-Gas Safety almost certainly has the best data in the UK but can’t get funding from wealthy gas charities. Most people don’t know about CO or how quickly it can kill. We want prime time TV warnings – all fuels, all appliances and all types of accommodation from bungalows to boats”
“Advice to people going abroad; Find out about CO – take a CO alarm to EN 50291 with you. Cost about £20. Not much to save a life. Why don’t airport shops sell CO alarms? We ask holidaymakers to inspect and report problems in their accommodation when they arrive and use a common sense approach when inspecting their holiday property – if something looks out of place, it probably is – complain!”.
- A Guest Article from Educatio Ad Infinitum which provides holiday advice on ‘Safe Summers’
- Call for Cabinet Office to respond on educational films for Carbon Monoxide in Holidays
- After 141 Days, Consumer Group calls for Cabinet Office to respond on Carbon Monoxide issues!
- Travel Consumer Group calls for Westminster Lobby Register!
- Lobbying for Travel Rights and HolidayTravelWatch
- 20 Ridiculous Holiday Complaints: The Consumer Experience 2013!
- Day 352 – Consumer Group calls on the Cabinet Office to demonstrate leadership on CO+
- HolidayTravelWatch congratulates CO-Gas Safety on its 20th Year
- Speech at the House of Lords; Carbon Monoxide and the State of Consumer Campaigning!
- Responsible Holidaymaker saves worker from Carbon Monoxide!
Thomas Cook ‘breached duty of care’ over deaths of Bobby and Christi Shepherd, jury finds
Gave an interview on Leeds radio about the Corfu tragedy at 7.00 a.m. 27th April 2015 because the UK inquest is starting today almost a decade after these terrible deaths of Christi and Bobbi Shepherd. My heart goes out to the parents, Sharon and Neil and I do hope they get answers at last.
View this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmapBWFQu3o
Press Release put out 24.10.14.
CO-Gas Safety, the Carbon Monoxide and Gas Safety society considers that plans to financially incentivise GPs to diagnose dementia will place many thousands of people, particularly the elderly, at increased risk of misdiagnosis of chronic carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning.